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Taylor Ryan (00:00) hey, Scott, I’m going to keep my off.
Scott Everline (00:03) Yeah, that’s fine. Makes sense.
Taylor Ryan (00:14) I put garrison on here as optional. He may or may not. Okay. We can handle it.
Scott Everline (00:30) I mean, it should be pretty quick. I just want to make sure we’re calling, apples and, oranges.
Taylor Ryan (00:35) Yep, totally agreed. So, did.
Scott Everline (00:39) You get yourself one of those little jam boxes?
Taylor Ryan (00:42) Yeah. So smart.
Scott Everline (00:44) Yeah. I mean, it’s a brilliant idea like, I know they, what is it? If you ever watched the gemstones, the righteous gemstones… the show on hbo?
Taylor Ryan (00:54) Yeah, I haven’t watched it. Do they have, do they have that they?
Scott Everline (00:58) Did that for prayer boxes? So they basically created like little mini micro chapels that people could go to. I’d say if you’re particularly religious and you take yourself seriously. Probably not the best show to watch.
Taylor Ryan (01:14) I am not, yeah.
Scott Everline (01:16) But in that case, it’s like basically just about an evangelical family that’s just absurd. Oh, okay.
Taylor Ryan (01:22) But.
Scott Everline (01:22) they create these things called prayer pods. Okay. So, yeah… it’s pretty entertaining.
Taylor Ryan (01:30) I know. I’ve heard really good things about that show. I should watch it. Yeah. Well.
Scott Everline (01:36) It’s like Billy McBride. So the southbound or eastbound and down Guy or whatever. Yeah, he’s like the lead of it. And then I think he’s one of the primary writers, but just all the characters are just enormous terrible. Yeah, which is.
Taylor Ryan (01:49) Great. Yeah, I’ve seen like trailers for it. Yeah, it looks ridiculous. Yeah, it is. Yeah… I forget. Are you flying out today or no?
Scott Everline (02:02) No, no, I don’t fly out until tomorrow. Nice. I didn’t know it was going to be such a short day today.
Taylor Ryan (02:09) I know. Same.
Scott Everline (02:11) And so then I just booked to come back on Thursday because otherwise, it would have been like a red eye to get home trying to leave late. Like, I’m not dealing with that again. Yeah. And my wife’s like it’s fine. Take some time off because I told her I was like, apparently we get over like halfway, I might just change my flight. She’s like don’t do that. She’s like that’s. Ridiculous. She’s like just like, you know, take the evening relax. You probably have a bunch of work to do because you’ve been sitting in conference rooms all day. She’s like just have a nice dinner be without the children come home on Thursday. I’m like perfect. That’s why I married you.
Taylor Ryan (02:42) Yeah.
Scott Everline (02:43) That’s the way I like it.
Taylor Ryan (02:45) That’s why I picked you. Yeah. All right. It looks like he’s in the waiting room. We’re going to let him in. Hey, bramer, can you hear us?
Scott Everline (03:00) It’s like you might be on mute if you are talking.
Scott Everline (03:08) Hey, sorry, guys. Sorry, it just scares me.
Taylor Ryan (03:12) Oh, hey.
Scott Everline (03:14) We were so excited.
Taylor Ryan (03:16) It looks like bramer did actually just enter the waiting room. Okay? We’ll let him in.
Scott Everline (03:23) All right.
Taylor Ryan (03:30) Hey, bramer… thanks for joining. Appreciate the time.
Bramer Owens (03:36) Yeah. Sorry for the delay. I was kind of double booked here a little bit, no.
Taylor Ryan (03:40) No, no worries. And this should hopefully be really quick. Yeah, I think we just wanted to clarify a couple things. So I’ll let Scott kind of ask a couple questions, but we’ll try and make it really brief for you.
Scott Everline (03:52) Okay. Yeah. So this will probably feel rudimentary, and hopefully that’s by design just trying to get a handle on the volume so that we can get the appropriate pricing pulled together for you all. So on the provider count like what’s the total number of providers that you have in the network?
Bramer Owens (04:14) So, directly contracted?
Scott Everline (04:17) Let’s start with all of it. Let’s do it all. And then we’ll do directly.
Bramer Owens (04:22) Yeah, I’ll answer the question. But what is your plan for the all?
Scott Everline (04:27) Because I thought you told us, yeah, if we want to price out the ongoing monitoring for the delegated providers, we need that volume because it’s all tier based pricing?
Bramer Owens (04:39) Oh, okay. So you want?
Scott Everline (04:44) Okay. Because you mentioned that being potentially in scope. So we just want to get a number in.
Bramer Owens (04:49) Front of you. Yeah, I mean potentially.
Scott Everline (04:51) Credentialed versus the whole network.
Bramer Owens (04:53) I have a solution now. So I think, okay, versus, you know, whatever a 1,000,000 dollars less. It would probably make sense to do that, you know. Okay. So that’s kind of where I’m coming from.
Bramer Owens (05:11) This report takes a while to load. Okay. No worries. And I think like maybe you could tell me, but I kind of feel like not all providers are created equal. Maybe that’s not true in the eyes of ncqa. I don’t know.
Scott Everline (05:31) From an ncqa perspective for monitoring and credentialing unless you’re talking about like atypical providers. They’re typically all kind of fall into the same criteria.
Bramer Owens (05:41) Well, I guess let me say it this way. I mean, I’m just, this is not my area of expertise by any means but like I kind of feel like a monitoring… a neurosurgeon for npdb and Da is much different than monitoring like a behavioral analyst. But in the eyes of the regulators, I’m sure they say no, that’s not true. It’s just the risk to the patients that’s my point.
Scott Everline (06:04) Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. I would agree with you with that sentiment but I don’t think ncqa breaks it down that granularly that I’ve seen… like dme and home health providers usually fall out of the mix.
Bramer Owens (06:19) But give me a second. I’m just thinking… it’s a very large file and we actually, this will change. We’ve managed it in.
Bramer Owens (06:36) I have to apply some filters here.
Bramer Owens (06:50) Directly credentialed npis is 450 today, and that’s effectively Austin. So if you want to think that San Antonio is about the same as Austin… and I would consider our network, I’m going to use some math here. So I don’t know if you appreciate this or not. But like let’s take current state. So like that’s the first threshold is like that’s a 70 percent solution in Austin, but 450 directly credentialed. So if you, I would say San Antonio is about the same size as Austin. El Paso is probably effectively half of Austin. So if you’re doing the math there, it’s 450 plus 450 plus two… 25. And I would expect Dallas Fort Worth to be two… times Austin effectively.
Bramer Owens (07:59) So that’s there? Okay? You can assume the same like the same like percentages. So on.
Bramer Owens (08:12) Let’s see. So.
Scott Everline (08:14) Are you guys in San Antonio already? Like, is that providers? Or is that growth that’s new network that’s.
Bramer Owens (08:20) all growth we don’t have those today. I’m just saying like I would expect like if you were to do a grid San Antonio or Austin current and Austin per year, I don’t know it would probably be a, you know, 10 percent, 20 percent growth in that per year. I’m guessing, okay, and then El Paso, future DFW future San Antonio future and then for delegated groups.
Bramer Owens (08:56) And I want to make sure I’m not showing any hostile… based providers because we don’t deal with that. I don’t know what these even mean.
Bramer Owens (09:11) Delegated groups for monitoring only looks about, you know, take out. HPV is four… K is what it says, more or less. Okay for Austin.
Scott Everline (09:28) And then the numbers that you gave for, and.
Bramer Owens (09:31) then, sorry, go ahead, oh.
Scott Everline (09:34) I was going to say, no, finish your thought and I’ll come back to it and.
Bramer Owens (09:37) Then for the rap network today.
Bramer Owens (09:47) Which this does include, I think all the markets, let me just double check real quick. Yeah, this does include 100 percent of the markets. It’s… large. It’s 26 K. Okay?
Scott Everline (10:02) And you guys are going to augment some of that rap market with the growth that you’re looking at in these certain, yeah.
Bramer Owens (10:08) It’ll take away from one. It will be exact one for one split. Yeah. Now… I mean, again, like we’re not required to monitor delegates, but to oversee delegates, we’re required to monitor the rap, we oversee the delegation of the rap to the, but there may be some balance where the risk is worth the, or, de, risk. Sorry, like we de, risking us is worth the return of that. Again, I’ve got a solution for today. It’s it’s in place for not the rap network, but it’s in place for. And the other problem with the rap network is, you know, like the data’s pretty poor. So, I have to spend a lot of time like cleaning it up. And so, I don’t want to monitor somebody who left four years ago, seems kind of silly.
Scott Everline (10:57) Yeah. And, I would imagine that’s what the rap like one of the things the rap network should be bringing with their services is full.
Bramer Owens (11:04) Compliance.
Scott Everline (11:05) right. I say should, unless it’s delegated, but like the groups I would think would probably do a less… compliant job than maybe the network theoretically those.
Bramer Owens (11:17) Are providers you need facilities too? Yeah.
Scott Everline (11:20) We’re going to have to get a breakdown on facilities, but can we, with your growth plans? So, I have roughly 45 providers per year in Austin, 225 providers in, was it San Antonio?
Bramer Owens (11:35) I’m not sure it’s per year. I’m telling you the Austin number, okay, gets us to where effectively two thirds of our claims are paid by. I don’t know, I mean, and I want to be clear, I don’t want to promise any growth because if we become more heavily reliant on a rap partner, we’ll become less heavily reliant on contracting and vice versa. Yeah. And so I don’t like I don’t want to, I don’t want to have some scenario where like we’re committing to a minimum of a 1,000 directly contracted. Do you see what I’m saying? I just don’t because we need the flexibility to do it. We need the flexibility to make the best move for the business and not be kind of hamstrung.
Bramer Owens (12:29) Does that answer your question or no?
Scott Everline (12:31) No. I mean, it does. The way we end up pricing the model and garrison and Taylor can probably speak to it better than I can, but we kind of use an estimated volume and essentially, that is a commitment from you all as far as an anticipated volume for the recredentialing and the credentialing. So your net new, so your growth providers and then what we know existing. So like the 450 you currently have in Austin that’s easy. We do a rule of thirds, you’re theoretically going to recredential a third of those providers next year, a third the next year, a third the next year, and then trying to get as close to the pin as we possibly can for growth. And I know the way like where you all are and I’ve been through this experience before you don’t really know because you don’t know how much you’re ultimately going to be able to delegate.
Bramer Owens (13:19) Right. Well, part of the purpose of that, I mean, yeah, delegate to a third party or to another group or?
Scott Everline (13:25) To a.
Bramer Owens (13:25) Wrap network. So it’s and again, not telling you how to price, but like current deal, I don’t have any minimums that are required. It’s not like I have one. I have one, I have a 1,000, I have a 1,000.
Taylor Ryan (13:47) Okay. I think. Yeah. And to Scott’s point, like obviously, we’re going to, you know, we’ll let our CRO, and Aaron kind of hammer out the details and like express the.
Bramer Owens (13:59) Yeah. Let me just give you the data.
Taylor Ryan (14:00) Yeah, exactly. So.
Bramer Owens (14:02) I’m going to give you the data of what current state is today. Okay? I just don’t feel comfortable making any future commitments?
Taylor Ryan (14:08) Yeah, for the.
Bramer Owens (14:09) Reasons I articulated. Okay.
Taylor Ryan (14:10) Yeah, I think that to that point.
Bramer Owens (14:12) I think transparency is the best option. Yeah, absolutely. And I’ll see Aaron tomorrow and I’ll talk to her about it and if she wants me to do something different, I’ll change course. Yeah.
Taylor Ryan (14:22) And I think to your point, like the way you’re doing it is how we’re also handling things on the provider side like stake. You know, we’ll start with conservative estimates. You can always grow like you can always, you know, come back to us and say, hey, actually we’re outpacing our projections. You know, we’d prefer you to be in that situation than have you commit to more than you’re comfortable with and not use it. So.
Bramer Owens (14:48) Facilities today, wrap… plus current. And I just got a new facilities file, but it hasn’t been cleansed yet. So I’m going to give you the round number of 1,300. Okay? I think it’s actually slightly higher. I think it’s slightly higher than that.
Scott Everline (15:08) How much of that is wrapped versus how much of it you all directly manage?
Bramer Owens (15:12) Oh, I mean, we don’t credential any. Well. Let me say this way. I think I told you my email response. Yeah, for… we, hang on. Let me just tell you because.
Scott Everline (15:26) ncqa does have a credentialing requirement for facility, albeit not very prescriptive, but there is like a, there is a CR yeah facility credit.
Bramer Owens (15:36) Yeah. So 100 of them are direct and 1,200 are wrap. And so what we’ve been doing and, you… know, I’m sure this will come up as a deficiency that you’ll help cure in the ncqa audit is what we’ve been doing is tracking down and documenting the most recent license and the most and, or if available, the most recent third party accreditation date. And we’ve got that for our wrap, had about 10 percent, you know, it was pretty bad. Yeah.
Scott Everline (16:11) But our,
Bramer Owens (16:11) we’ve gotten that from almost to zero and the pdm we have a, we have two we’re missing but they’re in trouble. They have to respond back to us. So, okay, effectively, I’m not, I’m sure. That is not the ncqa standard of excellence, but it started at probably 10, 20 percent compliance. And now we’ve got like 99 percent which I think is pretty good at least for documenting a third party date for a licensure, because my attitude and rose’s is a terrible attitude to have with ncqa. Is like if there’s another regulating body that knows a whole lot more about, this facility type that is allowing them to stay open, that’s what we’re and that’s what tdi requires and CMS requires. We’re going with that.
Scott Everline (17:03) Okay. Yeah. I mean, I guess.
Bramer Owens (17:05) I know ncqa standards trigger that. So we’ll clearly conform to that standard when required.
Scott Everline (17:10) Yeah. I mean, ncqa requires like… verification of the state license… verification of the medicare and medicaid ids, when applicable, the certificate of insurance. So the, a lot of the same things you would expect from like a provider type, and then accreditation, which would be considered like a board cert. And then if they don’t have some orgs will say if they don’t have an accreditation, they want a site visit and usually like the CMS site visit works. But I would say like depending on what, if it were me building this, I would say like I would let the rap do what it needs to do and what is expected to do and hold them accountable for doing it, right? And then any of the, any of the facilities that you all are directly working with, those would be the ones that would go through credentialing. And that sounds like that’s 100 today, right?
Bramer Owens (18:02) Yeah. I mean, we, I mean, and those could be considered credentialed already. We need to become much more dependent on the rap and that percentage will change in the rap’s favor, or we’ll become much less dependent on the rap and it’ll change in our favor. But at least what I gave you is the all four markets that I have today. And I think that’s kind of, I would say probably we found some errors in the data that the rap gave us. So I’d be willing to bet that number’s going to be closer to 1,500. Once all that. And this just happened. I just got this report today. So like I’m going to guess that facility line is going to be a lot closer to 1,500 to my guess, but I don’t know until the data is analyzed.
Scott Everline (18:47) Okay. But on the facility side is your target to continue doing it the way you’ve been doing it or is it too?
Bramer Owens (18:55) I want to do it better. I mean, we’ll have a choice when we go through our ncqa survey.
Scott Everline (19:00) Yeah, they’re going to, they’re going to look at what you guys do today and say that’s not.
Bramer Owens (19:04) Compliant. Yeah, acknowledged. But again, our only up until that, you know, this point, our only, what do you call it oversight has been tdi, and… remember, tdi and CMS only require certain facility types to be compliant. They don’t in terms of the reporting. And so they don’t require. And so we, we’ve been in compliant 100 percent of the time on the ones that are. But now we’re realizing we need to make sure that the, we need to go back and clean up the ones that were not compliant.
Bramer Owens (19:45) Okay. So yeah, we understand there’s a higher standard going forward. Let me say it that way. Yeah.
Scott Everline (19:52) But I would again, like, I would think that would be your directly credentialed facility. Oh our.
Bramer Owens (19:57) directly credentialed, we’re all over. Okay, this is specifically, let me clarify that directly. We’re all over like we require rosters, attestations, we require licensure, they’re removed from the directory. If they’re not, we hold claims or don’t pay claims there’s. We have a whole process for the rap, you’re… right? We should hold the rap accountable, but that’s kind of like holding like a six month old accountable, you… know, because they’re like it’s… unfortunate. It’s the reality of rap networks.
Scott Everline (20:33) yeah. I’m assuming you guys aren’t working with multiplan then?
Bramer Owens (20:37) No, we’re not. Are they good with?
Scott Everline (20:39) This multiplan is probably like one of the best unless you’re looking for specialty providers. And then it’s like there’s a whole rabbit hole you can go down, but multiplan is probably the most comprehensive most compliant. They do like claims analytics. They do a bunch of extra stuff that’s beyond the claim and they do a lot of out of network pricing.
Bramer Owens (20:59) No, we don’t we work with first health today.
Scott Everline (21:03) Okay. And.
Bramer Owens (21:04) they’re just not compliant. So we’re having to.
Scott Everline (21:09) It doesn’t sound like it. It sounds like they’re doing, they’re basically giving you a provider list and saying good luck.
Bramer Owens (21:14) Effectively, that’s what’s happening. Yeah, yeah… which is unfortunate, but I mean, it’s but again, that’s what I’m telling you we’re either going to become more dependent or less dependent on your rep yep.
Scott Everline (21:28) yep. Okay. So, do you want us to add a line item for facility credentialing and price that?
Bramer Owens (21:37) You… are welcome to? I need to talk to Aaron. I mean, the way I look at it is here’s… what we’re currently doing, you know, good, bad and indifferent.
Scott Everline (21:51) Yep.
Bramer Owens (21:52) And, you know, by going this direction here’s, what, you know, here’s what we could do. But like your job, there is actually quite easy… getting all those facilities to like pay it to. I know it’s like providers but like getting them connected and getting you to like do like that’s a full time job and a half. So I need to make sure we understand like the requirement unless you’re telling me, no, no, we don’t all we need is our tax id. We do the rest ourselves.
Scott Everline (22:24) Yeah, no. We actually our process. So it’s a good call out. So transparently our process is that you would obtain the documentation. So you would actually get the packet, the information, the supporting documents really take a first pass at it, and then we would take that file, and then start the primary source verification and then check for any missing data elements or reach back out to the facility to obtain that. But that initial acquisition of the data would be on you all.
Bramer Owens (22:54) Yeah. I mean, that sounds like for a few 100 facilities, that sounds like dozens… of people we’d have to hire.
Scott Everline (23:04) To be.
Bramer Owens (23:05) Honest to do it depending on the timeframe we’re going to do it in. Yeah. So I would say, I mean not to belabor this, but I would say that definitely… give us, I would give it the option and I would put the caveat that this is not like provider credentialing, where it’s ncqa or sorry. Is… it ncqa? What’s the face sheet? I’m blanking what’s the system that the providers use to keep their creds?
Scott Everline (23:43) Oh, you’re talking about caqh?
Bramer Owens (23:45) Caqh? Sorry, because there’s not like a caqh for facilities. Yeah.
Scott Everline (23:49) That’s the challenge. So.
Bramer Owens (23:51) You’d say like it’s not like provider where it’s caqh driven. It is like you are the caqh arbor and then we do the verification and the follow ups and the procedure backup packet for approval.
Scott Everline (24:09) Yeah. So it’s the opposite, you obtain the documentation. We then do the verifications and then send you the outcomes of the PSV. So we’ll deliver back a packet.
Bramer Owens (24:18) Yeah. I would differentiate between the two because I may forget, I think it’s an important distinction yep.
Scott Everline (24:27) So, I mean, we can provide, what do our.
Bramer Owens (24:28) clients, do I’m curious, like how do they handle that? A?
Scott Everline (24:32) Lot of the clients? So on the payer side, a lot of the clients, will they already have a process in place to collect the applications from the facilities? Yeah. And that’s typically managed through the provider relations rep. So the PR rep will work with the facility, get the application or applications, right? Because a hospital might have multiple locations. And so you’re going to get a facility app for each one of those locations and then they’ll submit that to medallion. And then we do the primary source verification. You can manage it in the platform. So like the committee module still works and flows. But like you said, because there’s no like caqh source that we can tap in to pull all that data magically out of the ecosystem, the plans are going out and capturing that. There are some customers that we’ve been working with to do the outreach piece, but we would probably want to have some more conversations around that. And then we wouldn’t want to define the universe. Is that the 1,500 or is it just the ones that you’re directly managing?
Bramer Owens (25:34) Got it. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Scott Everline (25:41) So we could provide pricing like we could say 100, right? This isn’t going into concrete yet. Anyway, it’s kind of directionally pointing us, to get some pricing. So we can have some conversations and you all can kind of really look at modeling out what the impact is. So if we say 100 facilities and that represents the directly credentialed ones and we can give you a price for that. And then you guys can determine whether or not that kind of fits into your objectives. If that works.
Bramer Owens (26:16) Yeah, that makes sense. I actually need to talk to Aaron because I think really… it’s going to be more driven less, our objective has become ncqa accredited. So that’s going to drive what we decided to do.
Scott Everline (26:28) Yeah. Have you all looked at the ncqa requirements for facilities?
Bramer Owens (26:34) Angela has?
Scott Everline (26:37) I have not maybe circle back with Angela and see what the gap is for you. All it sounds like from my understanding of the ncqa requirements, there’s a gap that ncqa is going to hone in on.
Bramer Owens (26:48) More than likely.
Scott Everline (26:49) We are ncqa compliant for that piece. So the part of that objective is to do that, I can’t imagine ncqa would put you on the hook for your rap providers though, but maybe they do, yeah, for our network but you’re not the one doing the credentialing.
Bramer Owens (27:03) Well, let me clarify. I mean, we do have a problem for our directs today. We have a process. It’s more of a pdm process and it’s licensure based because that’s what CMS and tdi require. We monitor the pdm, the provider data management that’s only 100, but they may say, look for these 100. You got to do more than just, you know, more than just that you have to do what you described or something close to it. Yeah, something we’ll have to cure with… the timeframe they give us or whatever, and to be able to move forward and either cure it, the current option… or cure it with you guys.
Scott Everline (27:50) Yeah. I mean, we’re set up to cure it.
Bramer Owens (27:52) Yeah. So I think I would just say, hey, that’s how I talk about it. Yeah. Okay. But you’re set to cure it in a way that creates a whole lot more work for me because my current way to cure it is to have somebody else go do all that work.
Scott Everline (28:08) Yeah, I appreciate that.
Bramer Owens (28:10) So, yeah, you’re.
Scott Everline (28:12) not the first one to share that. And so that’s yeah, it’s something we’re working on. We’re even standing up by the end of this year, I believe to have a portal where facilities can enter all that data directly into the platform. So it’s more like we send them a link, but I also think that’s like holding a six month old accountable. Okay? So I think like I’ll circle back with Taylor and garrison and see how we want to like at least provide some type of scope on pricing for that.
Bramer Owens (28:44) Yeah, I mean.
Scott Everline (28:45) The impact is, yeah.
Bramer Owens (28:47) And appreciate, I mean, appreciate that we’re dynamically evaluating many parts of our business, which is kind of why yard… brought in this is an option for you guys, right? So just like we’re doing the same thing with the rap network, we’re doing the same thing with, you know, pda. So I just want to point that out. So that’s why I’m not being as committal as you need me to be like you will give us X number of applications per year because that’s anyway, you’re getting the benefit of that. But I’m also telling you like, you understand what I’m saying? Yeah.
Scott Everline (29:23) There’s a lot of things there’s a lot of fluidity still that needs to be ironed out.
Bramer Owens (29:27) Yeah. So I’ll discuss the same thing with Aaron when I see her.
Scott Everline (29:30) Tomorrow. Yeah, we’ll let Kyle know because he’s going to be the one meeting with Aaron and just make sure he’s kind of on the same page and understands that there’s a, you know, it could go in a couple of different directions. Yeah.
Bramer Owens (29:40) I mean, again, hopefully it’ll get figured out before we can start working together. But that’s just the reality. But again, if we weren’t doing that, we would probably be telling you all, either, right? So it’s a good, it’s a good we’re doing that from your standpoint, I would hope maybe not. I don’t know. Yeah.
Taylor Ryan (29:58) I mean, you guys have been very transparent and I know that this exercise can be difficult especially given all of the unknowns and we appreciate that. So, you know, thanks for working with us on this. I think to Scott’s point, like we just, we, you know, want to give you guys like a, you know, we’re at the stage where we’re talking pricing and we want to just lay it all out for you and show you like with what we, with our best guess conservatively today, what the pricing would look like and allow you guys to decide, you know, what you want to pursue and what you don’t.
Bramer Owens (30:34) so, it makes total sense. Yeah. And if I went in the middle of a ncqa prep, a tdi audit and a tdi filing at the same time, you know, be much more willing to like sit beside you and kind of, you know, figure out, but, you know, next week will be a lot better to do that. And by the way, I’m the head of network, right? So, appreciate like it’s probably the person you need doing this, but there’s no one else to do it. So, I’m doing it right now.
Taylor Ryan (31:05) Totally. And bramer.
Garrison Goodman (31:07) Appreciate you.
Scott Everline (31:08) It’s amazing. Bramer’s, the one managing this, right?
Taylor Ryan (31:12) Yeah, I.
Bramer Owens (31:13) know it’s scary. I would say scary is what I would say.
Taylor Ryan (31:16) Bramer.
Garrison Goodman (31:17) Just real quick. Just a question for you. We know you guys are working on a pretty quick timeline sentiment wise. As you guys are talking internally, you obviously need pricing from us. You guys have the operational committee meeting next week. Is there anything else that you could think of that would help you? Or is there any kind of concerns internally that maybe we’re not aware of?
Bramer Owens (31:42) Man, I’ve not been involved in any of those conversations.
Garrison Goodman (31:45) Okay. All right. And,
Bramer Owens (31:47) so, I can’t give you an answer one way or the other to be honest?
Garrison Goodman (31:51) Okay. All righty.
Taylor Ryan (31:53) Yep. All good. Well, we appreciate your time. I know you’re juggling a lot of things. Me and Scott literally this morning were like, man, bramer has a lot on his plate.
Bramer Owens (32:05) We do a lot badly.
Taylor Ryan (32:07) We appreciate it. We appreciate your time very much. Thanks for bearing with us. Scott. You think we’re good? We have everything we need, right?
Scott Everline (32:16) Yeah, yeah.
Taylor Ryan (32:18) Okay, perfect. We’ll put that together bramer, and like I said, we’re going to lay everything out line item by line item and Aaron will review that with our CRO tomorrow, and I’m sure it’ll make it to your desk once they have that conversation. So we’ll work with the numbers that we’ve got and we can adjust where needed and try and figure out how to be as flexible for you guys as possible.
Bramer Owens (32:44) Yep. Sounds good. Thank you all so much yep.
Taylor Ryan (32:46) Thank you. All right. Thanks for your time, thanks.
Scott Everline (32:48) Bye bye.