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Mira Guha (00:00) hi, Stephen. How are you?
Stephen O’Beirne (00:02) Good. How are you? I’m.
Mira Guha (00:04) good. I’m glad it’s Friday. Awesome. Well, I don’t even know that we’re going to need the full 45 minutes but just wanted to make sure we have this ongoing monthly check in. We don’t even have to meet every month if we don’t think it’s necessary. But just to have it on the calendar just like our last one kind of cover a review of how things are going, revisit, any kind of feedback from previous meetings, check on consumption, make sure we kind of know what’s ahead, all that good stuff. Was there anything in particular you wanted to chat through today or revisit?
Stephen O’Beirne (00:36) No. The only thing I went through the new dashboards on the analytics side and I think they look good. I had a couple of questions on them which I could ask you. I could ask James, but I think the one piece that we talked about with James and maybe we talked about it here before and I know it’s not an easy answer but seeing what including the client owned enrollment… data into that dashboard would really help us from a business standpoint.
Mira Guha (01:13) Yeah. I had that as one of the, I had like two major pieces of feedback from our last meeting and that was one of them, I think the other one was the consolidating of like the pay enrollment effective and credentialing dates. So I did check in with our CPO actually on both of those, I think long term, there’s just a lot of analytics changes that are going to be available in platform. I think right now just like the self serve enrollment is still not a major priority for us just because most folks aren’t using us for self serve. I’m gonna continue to revisit that and check in with our product team about that to see if like there might be any estimate for future state. I think right now it’s kind of considered like a nice to have item potentially down the line. We just don’t have any like concrete timelines for that? I’m trying to remember if I have any specific data you were looking to track for that, but happy to like take some specific notes back.
Stephen O’Beirne (02:07) Well, maybe you can’t share this because it’s proprietary. But like I’m just curious ballpark, do you know what percentage of your enrollments are client owned overall versus medallion owned?
Mira Guha (02:21) I’m not actually sure. I know that a good number of the clients we have doing payer enrollment do at least a few client owned. So those who have the dashboard on because they purchased payer enrollment, like sometimes they’ll just like put in a couple pre existing ones. They’re still tracking. I can only think of one client I have right now who kind of like you has the payer dashboard on is using it for self serve. Technically. Our team doesn’t always allow that if it’s not purchased for managed services, which is why sometimes people do a hybrid. I have no idea about the percentage.
Stephen O’Beirne (02:51) I.
Mira Guha (02:52) think if I were to guess off the top of my head with the number of clients I have doing enrollment, like maybe a quarter of them are doing at least some version of their own, but mostly are doing through us for managed.
Stephen O’Beirne (03:02) Because if you don’t have the full picture, it makes it really hard to have a north star on credentialing, right? Even if I want to include delegation in it, right? Like if somebody says what’s your days to first, you know, to being able to see clients and I want to and I’m you know, we did work to get our delegation and I would include it if I’m giving a single number. I just think that and that’s really the only, I mean, I like to break it down but like that would be like by payor which you do on your dashboard, but knowing that one number would be really helpful.
Mira Guha (03:40) Yeah. So mostly kind of turnaround time information so you can see kind of breakdown time to be able to see patients for that plan.
Stephen O’Beirne (03:48) Yeah. Across, you know, whether it’s enrollment or delegation or client owned or medallion owned like that number, I still think is the north star.
Mira Guha (04:03) Yeah. Gotcha. Just taking some notes here. Yeah, I’ll see if I can do a little bit more digging as well as just kind of to understand from other account managers. If this is something they’re hearing. I’ll admit it’s not something I hear a lot being able to use it for self service.
Stephen O’Beirne (04:22) If it’s not in the dashboard, like maybe there’s a way you could say here’s. How you could use reports to like configure this in a easy way. Yeah.
Mira Guha (04:37) I could even see if like our not necessarily analytics but via the report builder, if that’s something they would consider future state is like client owned enrollments licensing, whatever types of requests we’re handling. So I’ll definitely take that back and see maybe even with our CPO or just other folks on our product team even if it’s not exactly an analytics request. Is there something that we could build in relatively easily? Or at least just like put it even if it’s currently on the back burner as like a roadmap item, definitely happy to take that back and see if they have any feedback or thoughts. Great. Perfect. I’ll go ahead and share my screen.
Stephen O’Beirne (05:16) Sorry, the other item, I’m assuming there’s not anything about rolling in the.
Mira Guha (05:21) Dates.
Stephen O’Beirne (05:22) Yeah. So.
Mira Guha (05:24) As of right now, kind of same thing I actually have like a word for word from our CPO, we don’t have a specific enhancement underway or planned for that. I think the way she put it was our kind of overall goal. Long term is unifying the product experience… as much as we can as efficiently as we can across different workflows and like solutions. So it’s a long term improvement. It’s not like an exact roadmap item right now. I think since that was Leah you met with Leah and Derek, I think like around the same time we had our last meeting. So I think she did take that feedback internally. It’s just again like not as much of a hot ticket item or priority as some of the other things, but it’s something I’m going to continue to revisit with her and see if like we eventually do have an exact timeline or roadmap more specifically, but I’ll go ahead and yeah, revisit that. It would be great if I had something for you by the next time we meet, but it’s hard to say, yeah.
Stephen O’Beirne (06:23) I get it.
Mira Guha (06:26) Anything else?
Stephen O’Beirne (06:29) Just, I guess we’re just waiting on, is it in your court or our court on getting our final transition pieces done? Yeah.
Mira Guha (06:39) So, I know the provider import that our team did. I believe that’s complete that was a couple of weeks ago. And then I think it sounds like we’re trying to use the API for some of the Coi. And then I know I’m missing something else. Mostly Coi. I know we were looking to update what was the other piece? Trying to keep my it’s.
Stephen O’Beirne (06:59) Coi and getting our cerebral files.
Mira Guha (07:04) Uploaded the cred files that’s right? Okay. Yeah. So I think you have the API information. We’ve created a couple keys. If you need a new API key, either dummy or prod environment. I think either James or our support team have an automation that will create that pretty quickly for you. Just let us know if you decide you’d like to go with the more hands on medallion support route. I just need to check in with our TSM and see if they would charge for that. And if so, how much? I think you already have the import template if we were to go that route, but I’ll make sure is that the correct one. Is there a different one? So I think it’s up to you on if you want to try to do it through the API, which I think was the preference because that’s something if this happens again, your team can just go that route again without having to come back to us and wait for us to do it, potentially incur a fee. But I’m happy to check back in on that thread today and see if anything else is needed from our end just to kind of keep us on top of any timeline we have here.
Stephen O’Beirne (08:02) I think there might be the two threads got confused. So there’s season’s question where she did say the API option for the cois are better because we have to do it again in August. Okay? But maybe.
Mira Guha (08:19) the print files are where we need help.
Stephen O’Beirne (08:21) I don’t think you responded to the API because I sent a separate question about and maybe it’s the same answer, but I sent a separate question because we’re working with Airtable and our internal tech and product team to do a data sync… from medallion. And so then you sent me the API technical guide and I passed that on but I don’t know if season got an answer to for the cois, like maybe it’s the same answer?
Mira Guha (08:53) Okay. Yeah. I’m just checking to see the different ones. So there is the one about Airtable, James responded to that one.
Stephen O’Beirne (09:03) Yeah. And you responded too. You said here’s the maybe this was okay. This wasn’t yeah.
Mira Guha (09:09) I think there are two separate threads. I can just go ahead and follow up on both of those today and make sure I’m kind of keeping clear this one’s for Airtable. This one’s for Coi and cred files and see like, are we good with, do you have everything you need? If you want to use API or would you like to, can.
Stephen O’Beirne (09:24) we use an API for cred files? I.
Mira Guha (09:26) Believe we can, that is what I’m trying to pull up the technical ticket I actually had with our tsa team about this. I can double check in case she was just, that was Adelie who I don’t know if you’ve met with before. I think she’s worked on some of your TSM work. Yeah, because Sammy who leads our TSM team has been out of office for a little bit. So she was reviewing everything is taking forever to load. I just have to review it. She was reviewing and she said this should be manageable through the API. So I’ll go ahead and double check and see if we can do that. And I’ll just go ahead and respond on both threads to make sure we’re not leaving anything open.
Stephen O’Beirne (10:04) Yeah, I think we’re good on the data sync, Airtable thread. Okay? Because I just took your technical guide, James answered questions and I sent that to our tech and product team.
Mira Guha (10:18) OK, gotcha. So I.
Stephen O’Beirne (10:19) would say just replying to that April fifteenth, 629 P. M. Oh, no, no. Sorry. Season’s email on April fourteenth at 1,140 about API for Coi and cred file. Like if it’s just a document and we need to dig into it great. But if there’s any other, you know, guidance you can give, that may not be self explanatory. Yeah, that would be great. I’ll.
Mira Guha (10:53) check on that. That’s the one subject line, help with transition files, right? Yeah.
Stephen O’Beirne (11:00) I can’t find the subject line.
Mira Guha (11:03) I know you had a date it’s.
Stephen O’Beirne (11:05) April, it was season’s last email was April fourteenth at 1,140 a M. And it’s me you, James and Samantha and season… here. I’ll just forward it to you.
Mira Guha (11:16) OK. That would probably be the easiest way. Thank you. OK… I’ll go ahead and get clarification on that from our TSM team today. And the.
Stephen O’Beirne (11:25) reason this is so important is like we’re internally, we’re you know, we’ve got two people on cred and we really need to free up Samantha half of Samantha’s time for billing and I need to get their heads past the transition work and like into the future and like these are still like, I know they’re not like make or break sort of things, but they’re like still preoccupying… their minds.
Mira Guha (11:55) Absolutely. Anything we can do to help with that. Absolutely, I’ll go ahead and follow up on that thread today. Yeah, it was that one. So glad I wasn’t going completely crazy. I’ll check with Adelie. Sounds like, the cred files are already in PDF format. And if we’re okay with just putting, I think the one thing we were waiting on was, are we okay with just putting them in the document section for the provider profiles? And I think that was a yes, if that’s the case. I’ll confirm with Adelie, if that is okay, an API option or if there’s anything else we should be considering here. So perfect. I’ll take that as my big current action item from today’s call, thanks. Anything else?
Stephen O’Beirne (12:35) I think that’s it.
Mira Guha (12:36) Okay, perfect. Sorry, I don’t know what my dog is upset. Anyhow. I just wanted to remind you what your structure looks like here on the medallion side, as far as support. I’m glad James has been really helpful. It sounds like I know you’re meeting with him monthly. You have me still as your account manager. Nothing is changing if needed for escalation. Amy frana leads our engagement management team. Hopefully you won’t have to work with her, but if that ever comes up, she can help with any like operational escalations. I report to Genevieve sini, who reports to gab Norton. If you remember her on the ama. And then of course, we have all these folks director of operations, Merritt miller, help with things especially related to credentialing licensing. Nate Rosenthal started not too long ago as our coo, you met with Derek. I realize Leah is not on this slide for some reason, but you also met with her CPO, and then probably not going to be as involved on the sales side of things. But we do have our CRO, Kyle and our VP of sales Cameron. So just wanted to remind you who our folks are here. I’ll send this deck again likely last time. So you have it as a record. Just want to make sure you know, folks you might be seeing long term. Great. I just wanted to cover a couple operational things since we last met. Been getting some good work done. I’m guessing this is a lot of the new cerebral providers. 130 total credit requests have gone through since I last talked to you in February. 36 were completed in the month of March which I think previously October was our highest volume month. Now March had about 10 more I think than that month median days from the credit file being completed to sorry, that should be swapped, the application being completed to the credit file being completed, 29 days, 13 days from requested to application complete. So that includes basically all the time just to get the provider profile completed, be able to generate that file totally medium day from committee to credential complete is one day which I’d say is a pretty great turnaround time on your team’s behalf. But any questions about any observations with the cred workflow or anything you’re noticing in platform feedback from your team?
Stephen O’Beirne (14:41) No, I think we’ve we had a, we had a period of a month or two where things had dropped off on the turnaround for the creds. I think that got resolved. I mean based on this.
Mira Guha (15:01) Cred file and we can filter like the analytics as you said, and then we’ve been going through the analytics dashboard. There are ways to help kind of filter some of the timelines and stuff. It’s very interactive now. So we can kind of continue to track that. If you are seeing like delays. I know Samantha’s pretty on it to be like we need to get this credentialing file moved forward. But if we’re seeing any of those blips just let us know and hopefully we can dig into it. James can help us what?
Stephen O’Beirne (15:25) Is cred file completed to application complete?
Mira Guha (15:29) Yeah. Sorry, that one was the one where my sentence is flipped around. So application complete is once we have the provider profile. So from that being, we have everything we need that means like cred file is generated, this is.
Stephen O’Beirne (15:41) Like application to committee date?
Mira Guha (15:43) I believe this is once it’s completed all the way, I’ll double check, but this should be, yeah.
Stephen O’Beirne (15:48) Well, committee date would be, I think committee would be all the way. Yeah. I mean, ideally, I guess a lot of this can depend on when the committee is.
Mira Guha (15:58) Yeah… like.
Stephen O’Beirne (16:01) We want to definitely have that under 30 like closer to 15. But again, it’s the date of the committee. I think.
Stephen O’Beirne (16:13) I think on that sort of processing is good. The only thing I know that’s coming up and… I think it’s coming up because we’re now for the first time credentialing all of our provisional providers. And there… are some states. There’s two things that have popped up recently. One is, and James knows, I think, but it keeps happening. One is some states don’t have licenses, provisional licenses for the providers and we get stuck. And so if Samantha’s not on it or doesn’t see, it goes a while. The second thing is.
Stephen O’Beirne (17:02) I can’t think of this. I forgot the second thing but that, that’s one of the things that’s popped up.
Mira Guha (17:06) Okay. I can check in with James on that and get a little bit more context. I don’t know if that’s something that’s easier for us to help flag. If it’s just like a probably a profile thing like we need the license for the state… the.
Stephen O’Beirne (17:20) Other ones that work history, like they were approving, they were approving a lot of again, a lot of newer clinicians, you know, where the ncqa guidelines were, five years of work history from the day they were first licensed. And we had several gaps and they were approving them and we caught the gap. So that’s the second issue.
Mira Guha (17:41) Got it. Okay. Yeah. I mean, hopefully the provider like profile overview will flag that there’s some sort of gap.
Stephen O’Beirne (17:52) That’s a good. I wonder why it had it in those cases.
Mira Guha (17:56) Yeah. I’m curious about that. I don’t know if like in one of the last calls with James, there were any examples flagged?
Stephen O’Beirne (18:03) Might have been sometimes I.
Mira Guha (18:05) can check with him.
Stephen O’Beirne (18:07) Lose the thread in those meetings.
Mira Guha (18:09) Yeah, because if there’s something we’re not reporting on that, we should be that’s one thing, if there’s a way we can try to improve visibility into certain requirements that we’re seeing like are consistently creating delays or roadblocks. I’m wondering if he and I can put our heads together and try to find more creative solutions because I don’t know if it’s I’m trying to think if that’s something that we can report on with the report builder or something else internally so that’s good feedback on the provisional licensing piece and the gaps in work history. And maybe if we can address that, we’ll see this 29 day timeline decrease, which obviously would be ideal. So I’ll go ahead and follow up with James on those… and then maybe we can see if we can find some examples. Okay. Anything else? This is helpful feedback… I think.
Stephen O’Beirne (19:01) Well, I know you’re going to go through your thing. The only thing I’m curious about is our consumption. I haven’t really looked, yeah.
Mira Guha (19:07) We can definitely focus on that today. I put together some information on that. I know we’re not doing any licensing right now. If you have plans to add some, let us know. I know we did a very minimal number in the contract renewal, but just keep us posted just.
Stephen O’Beirne (19:20) Back to back to cred, like the whole deathmaster ofac.
Mira Guha (19:25) yes, I was going to ask about that.
Stephen O’Beirne (19:26) I don’t I mean, I don’t want to spend an extra 20 grand. We only really need it ad hoc for fully licensed contracts and maybe we don’t need it. I’m still confirming but like what if we just paid for it ad hoc like ad hoc? Would that be better than spending all that money for we’re not going to use it like I?
Mira Guha (19:48) Yeah, I’ll need to check with our team, some verifications. We can’t run ad hoc. I think it’s continuous, or not at all. So I’ll need to check with merit director of operations probably on that piece. The one thing we’d want to confirm is we’re trying to clean up, and solidify that delegated agreement with you. So whatever we put in there is kind of going to be our source of truth for your monitoring going forward. And then of course, there is the associated cost because of, we were concerned about compliance. I think it has been running. So just as a heads up, I think that will be kind of affecting your consumption. We can take a look at that in some more depth.
Stephen O’Beirne (20:21) When you say the delegated agreement, can you tell me more about that?
Mira Guha (20:24) Yeah. So that’s the agreement medallion has with would have with you that basically clarifies here’s, our responsibilities as your cvo here’s, cerebral’s responsibilities. This is what we are running and just kind of makes it really clean. It helps make sure we’re not having issues where there’s confusion about what we’re doing versus what you’re doing. So basically just establishes the responsibilities of both sides. It’s something as a record that we keep on our end for credentialing posterity. You have a copy of it too. We both sign it. I think I can send you a blank template. I wouldn’t recommend you sign it yet. But just so you can see kind of what it looks like or I can send you like a screenshot, but I know like Samantha was asking if we had one and we weren’t able to find one. So we were like let’s just get one officially signed and completed just for compliance sake. So yeah, if you have any updates on that, let us know. I’ll check. I think merit’s traveling internationally, so I’ll see if she or someone else on cred can confirm if we can do ad hoc otherwise.
Stephen O’Beirne (21:23) Or if we don’t need a 1,000, can we, you know, if we really only need it for our fully licensed, can we, I mean, because we’re going to, I mean, honestly, we’re going to have, we’re going to lose money like we’re going to, we’re not doing a 1,000 providers this year, right?
Stephen O’Beirne (21:39) So, can we use some of that to pay for this? Like I don’t want to spend more money. We’re already going to lose money on it.
Mira Guha (21:45) Gotcha. Let me check with our team. We do have to, if we are going to add it, we do need to contract for it.
Stephen O’Beirne (21:53) But it’s just a different SKU, right? Like can’t, we, can, it be covered by I’m?
Mira Guha (21:59) Wondering if our team, like you said, because we are under owned providers, it’ll be on for everybody. Monitoring isn’t all or nothing. You can’t opt certain people into it. But if you wanted to just contract for like technically 500 providers instead of a 1,000 and still have it on the contract, but then use leftover SKU flex for it. Yeah, I can see if that’s like a compromise in between.
Stephen O’Beirne (22:20) I, the… thing is we don’t we probably need it for half of it. I mean, we need it for really like 200 providers. We only need it for a fully licensed. I mean, maybe that’s the, if you’re looking for something tangible to hold on to not be for it not to be confusing in terms of what you’re doing and what you’re not doing. Like it’s those two checks for all our fully licensed people. Yeah, we just don’t need it. I mean, we put the provisional on there because we want to do that initial cred, but… we just don’t need to monitor them in the same way. Yeah.
Mira Guha (23:05) I’ve only had one other client bring up that they would like the ongoing monitoring to be an opt in or out. So right now, it’s not super high on the priority list.
Stephen O’Beirne (23:13) Well, how many providers do we have? Now? What do we have now? Like 500 something?
Mira Guha (23:17) Let me jump ahead. That was last time we’re currently at 549. I am curious if our team since it looks like we won’t be able to opt people in or out if I’ll have to run that by gab or Jen, if we’d be okay with adding for like 500 and using skuflex for the rest. And then just like that, 34 dollar unit price is less than it used to be. We used to charge like 45 or 55 for the comprehensive monitoring. Why?
Stephen O’Beirne (23:43) Don’t, we just do it for everyone and just give us a skuflex. Like we shouldn’t have to pay more than we’re already paying.
Mira Guha (23:50) I’ll confirm with them. I just know that our team is really strict about adding, you know, contracting for it to avoid confusion with compliance issues later, like which level of monitoring you have. So I’m happy to present all this feedback to them and see if they have a recommendation because I know we don’t want to spend more if we can avoid it or, you know, minimize additional spend.
Stephen O’Beirne (24:10) Yeah. I mean, we’ve got right now, we’ve got probably what let’s say we even get to 600. My earning is what 20… 400?
Stephen O’Beirne (24:27) We’re not going to get past 600 providers this year. I don’t think.
Mira Guha (24:31) Yeah, we’re on the low side for consumption for sure.
Stephen O’Beirne (24:33) So, I’d rather not waste money and spend more. Yeah.
Mira Guha (24:38) I’ll go ahead and yeah, we’re about 60 percent of the way, you know, time wise through the first year of the contract. We’re looking 20 percent of the way through the entire two years. So we’ve you know, 60 percent of the way through year one, 40 percent of the way through year one’s funds. So let me go ahead and see if I can bring that to our team. I can’t promise anything. They usually are pretty strict about having it contracted if we’re making any changes to like what’s papered, but I’ll definitely let.
Stephen O’Beirne (25:05) You know, even if we contract for it, can, our, I mean, wasn’t SKU, flexibility that wasn’t that part of the sell.
Mira Guha (25:13) Yeah. There are kind of limitations to that as far as like different product lines. So I can see if I can get a formal statement from our team. I totally understand what you’re saying just letting you know what their usual talk track is. So I’ll keep you posted. I’ll definitely make the case that we are under right now. We’re looking not to add additional spend here especially with the current provider count. So let me, I mean right now we are just running it for you. So let me go ahead and see what we can do there without adding extra funds to the contract? Great. Okay. Yeah. So we do have about 80,000 dollars available spend left this year total available on the remaining contract that next like year and a half or so 2,210 1,000. So we’re looking pretty high on what’s available there. Okay? I think that’s all I had for consumption.
Mira Guha (25:58) Happy to send more information. But as you know, everything is live in the analytics and you can filter by, you know, consumed requests, things like that. I did kind of just, this is what we talked about last time. I just wanted to review. I’ll go ahead and fill in kind of the update this month about what we just discussed with the enrollment and credentialing timeline kind of consolidation, obviously doing a decent bit of credentialing but not an insane amount right now looking to kind of address some of those barriers that we mentioned with the provisional licensing and the work history gaps, doing some of that onboarding and trying to help with the integrations with Airtable. I still have in here. I’ll mention of course, the ongoing monitoring just when I send this deck over anything else. Anything else coming up that we should be aware of?
Stephen O’Beirne (26:47) Yeah.
Stephen O’Beirne (26:55) Not really. I mean there’s some things happening on the payer side that may result in?
Stephen O’Beirne (27:04) Either more credentialing or enrollments, not a lot on the provider side. So it’s really just, I would say existing providers, there could be more consumption based on some payer contracting. So keep you updated.
Mira Guha (27:18) Sounds good. Obviously, we have quite a bit of wiggle room there. If you think you are going to be putting in like a ton of requests at once, maybe just give James a heads up so he can alert our cred team. But other than that, I mean, this all makes sense to me. I’ll go ahead and fill those in. We don’t need to go over this right now. I actually need to kind of update this deck a little bit with some new slides but just want to let you know we have some slides about our 20 26 roadmap for this quarter. So I’m going to make sure there’s information on everything that’s relevant to you. That’s going to be mostly the core and credentialing. So kind of just like user interface updates, how we’re utilizing AI, trying to kind of reduce manual entry wherever possible. Are some of the key highlights.
Mira Guha (28:04) I’ll just make sure I have everything in here that’s relevant to you especially for considering maybe doing a couple enrollments or just anything that’s helpful there. But any other questions? I’m hoping we covered most of the feedback pain points?
Stephen O’Beirne (28:17) Yeah, I’ll get an RN. This is good.
Mira Guha (28:20) Perfect. All right. Well, Steven, I think this was super helpful. I think I have some really good feedback here. I think my computer froze. Okay, great. I’m going to go ahead and clean this up, make sure it’s all clear here. I’ll follow up with James on a couple of those items we discussed. And then definitely our cred team on some of the monitoring pieces. But let me know if you have any questions. In the meantime, we have our time scheduled. I think for same day next month, I’m going to be out of office the last week of April, but Jen or gab, I think one of them will be covering for me. So that should be in my out of office email. We should be all set there.
Stephen O’Beirne (28:55) Cool. Going anywhere fun.
Mira Guha (28:57) I am getting married that week.
Stephen O’Beirne (28:59) Oh, wow. That’s going to be fun. That will be fun. Yeah, congrats that’s awesome.
Mira Guha (29:04) Thank you so much excited and stressed, but it’s going to be great. So, yeah, where?
Stephen O’Beirne (29:08) Are you getting married at?
Mira Guha (29:10) Just down the road in boulder?
Stephen O’Beirne (29:11) Oh, that’s cool. That’s cool. I went to a wedding outside of boulder. It was beautiful, like not a bad place to get married. Yeah.
Mira Guha (29:21) We’re going to be right on the creek April thirtieth, I have no idea what the weather’s going to look like. It’s Colorado. It could be snowing but it’s nice and green right now. So that would.
Stephen O’Beirne (29:30) be, at least you’ll blend in with the white.
Mira Guha (29:32) Exactly camouflaged in the snow. Thank you so much. And yeah, just if you’re doing anything, there should be coverage, but otherwise, I’ll be seeing you in may.
Stephen O’Beirne (29:42) Sounds good bye, Mira, perfect.
Mira Guha (29:44) Thanks, Steven. Bye.